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MOB-ONE
07-31-2007, 09:14 AM
We've already got a thread debating the judging part so lets not bring this in here. What I would like this to be is straight out suggestions to the MW Staff that you would like see changed or added next year. Some of these I have already heard so I'll go ahead and list them, and some I'd like to see myself. Post yours up and I will edit this original post for the MW Staff to consider at the next meeting....

1. Trash cans in the lot with us
2. Porta- Jons
3. Dash Plaques
4. Break out classes and include a Daily Driver and Trailor Class.
5. No vendor or staff cars in show field
6. "weight" higher mileage cars in the show
7. Food Vendor out in the lot with us
8. Compensation for Mustang Week Staff
9. Allow extra time in schedule for calculating results. Scheduled time was 6:00P.M. and actual time of presentation was closer to 7:30 P.M.
10. Rule that no spray paint allowed in show or display areas
11. Separate Vendor class
12. Possible Location change to Inlet Square Mall
13. Go ahead and back the time up to regular show hours instead of delaying the start time.
14. Possibly a mid-week break to allow for rest OR other club events.
15. Possible photography of cars that could be listed as winners and also for participants to buy with Mustang Week LOGO on it.
16. Separate the cars showing from the car displaying

Some of these may be something that can be done and then some may not. THIS IS ONLY A THREAD TO SUGGEST IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU THINK WOULD MAKE THE SHOW BETTER!!! I know the MW Staff will consider these and do what they can to improve the Mustang Week experience. So lets here your ideas....lets not debate the ideas though please.

Low 11s
07-31-2007, 10:15 AM
I don't know if the Mustang Week Staff is getting paid for what they do. If not then I feel they should be compensated for their time and effort making this happen. T-shirts and posters just don't cut it. Its such a growing event that people are eventually going to need to be paid because its going to become a job if it isn't already. How about we talk about this? Maybe charge a $5 - $10 entry fee for everyone including spectators. We only see the end result of their work, we don't see the time and frustration it takes to pull this off. Lets talk about fund raising to keep the Staff interested in keeping this going.

MOB-ONE
07-31-2007, 10:29 AM
Suggestion added.

bit
07-31-2007, 11:02 AM
By break out classes do you mean parking model years together? That seems like a great idea to me, but I also realize the trouble it would cause. Maybe number the spaces and assign the cars accordingly. Make the registration deadline Thursday night before the trip to Darlington so there is time to assign parking spots.

snkchmr
07-31-2007, 11:10 AM
As it stands now it cost us money to put on MW we don't make anything.

When you go to the tracks & pay the gate fee etc we don't see any of that. The only thing we charge you for is to show or display your car.

We have always wanted to keep the event cost friendly because it cost enough to get to MB & stay for the week.

A lot of the sponsors you see listed donated stuff for the raffle & that's why we push that so hard.

Its more to this event than us just showing up to a mall & calling it a day. The mall parking lost cost us $3,000 the awards another $3,000 we have insurance & permits we have to buy.
The list goes on & on.

russell333
07-31-2007, 11:28 AM
Great show overall.
1. Trash cans(Necessity)
2. Food or drink vendor if possible.
3. Rule that no spray paint allowed in show or display areas.
4. Allow extra time in schedule for calculating results. Scheduled time was 6:00P.M. and actual time of presentation was closer to 7:30 P.M.

Don't take this as a complaint just suggestions.

yellow01gt
07-31-2007, 11:30 AM
By break out classes do you mean parking model years together? That seems like a great idea to me, but I also realize the trouble it would cause. Maybe number the spaces and assign the cars accordingly. Make the registration deadline Thursday night before the trip to Darlington so there is time to assign parking spots.

that's exactly what I was talking about in the judging thread. ;)

Kris
07-31-2007, 11:42 AM
Regarding the vendors cars in the show...if vendors want to show their cars you could always make a seperate vendor car class so they are not competing against the regular show cars. They could be judged vs the other sponsors cars. Personally I dont think the vendors cars should be in the regular show field...although I did see many that were...None of the BMCP cars that were in the booth were entered in the show for just that reason, our cars were display only.

mbpd652
07-31-2007, 11:53 AM
instead of having at a busy, high traffic mall were more accidents could occur......maybe have at say Inlet Square mall that has just as much parking and less traffic volume. Also to obtain permits i believe is not as expensive as NMB because horry county deals with bike week vendors all the time in May and in Oct..

rodcobra
07-31-2007, 12:00 PM
Inlet Square mall is to far ,people will say that. Trash cans where to be there ,but I guess they were forgot .The Mall wants people to go in the mall to eat and use restrooms ect. We can get trash cans and port-a-jons. Other stuff is what we look at ,when we have meeting . Thanks guys. :D

mbpd652
07-31-2007, 12:02 PM
I guess you havent driven HWy 31??? 15 mins to NMB to Socastee area, us locals love that strech of Hwy.

MOB-ONE
07-31-2007, 12:35 PM
Suggestions added, with emphasis on SUGGESTIONS.

On the parking classes together, I would say that many would not like that because of the amount of people that come in as groups and would get split up. I put it up there though so the staff can look at it.:)

Chris
07-31-2007, 12:38 PM
Separate classes for awards is cool and all...but Clubs like to park together

and I might be a little biased but a bunch of Black Mustangs Parked together is one awesome sight!!!

Doesn't mean you can't still break down to different classes in awards though.

mbpd652
07-31-2007, 12:44 PM
Being in the lawenforcement field, if you so worried about people racing and burning out ask Horry county to have officers on standby. The people that stayed for awards got tired of hearing about a bunch of retards racing out front of the mall, it wasnt us or any of my friends....we tresure are cars to much to slip up and wreck. The county have several moonlighting gigs and this probly wouldnt be problem them or beefing SCHP, or just asking them to come and drive thru.....presence detours crime.

SM69Mach
07-31-2007, 12:49 PM
Being in the lawenforcement field, if you so worried about people racing and burning out ask Horry county to have officers on standby. The people that stayed for awards got tired of hearing about a bunch of retards racing out front of the mall, it wasnt us or any of my friends....we tresure are cars to much to slip up and wreck. The county have several moonlighting gigs and this probly wouldnt be problem them or beefing SCHP, or just asking them to come and drive thru.....presence detours crime.

We have called before we show up, Months, weeks and days in advance, and talk to everyone we can to tell them and ask, almost to the point of begging to come out and help prevent this incidents from taking place, and EVERY year the response is, when something happens call us!

Trust me, we have asked.

mbpd652
07-31-2007, 12:54 PM
Im sure but im telling you to make contact with the BRASS. By this i mean SCHP and Horry Countys chief to ensure you have keep checks of the area. I know sometimes things dont get jumped on very quickly but if you phrase things differently you get a response from different agency's in area. At MB we call events like this keep checks and log them in our cad system to pop up every hour to send officers out and check locations. Let me know next year and il get you contact with the right peeps.......lol

http://www.horrycounty.org/hcgPortal.asp
heres county site were you vcan e-mail chief to ask for help.

SM69Mach
07-31-2007, 12:56 PM
Thanks for the info, that will help for next year!

mbpd652
07-31-2007, 01:00 PM
Thanks for the info, that will help for next year!

If you guys need assistance with matters like this ask our local mustang club to help, we know the area and get several things done that you might need. Heres are link, www.thegsmc.com

rodcobra
07-31-2007, 01:10 PM
You know I WISH someone had done a show like this 10 years ago ,I would have loved to go and have a good time .
I don't get some of you guys ,finding everything wrong and what not. I will be glad to break down the costs ,have you printed 8000 flyers anytime soon,full color front and back .If you can print shirts for 3 bucks a piece,let me know where . I will be glad to sell them for 10 to 12 bucks a piece. Have you have website done anytime soon.
We could buy a new GT 500 for the cost of this show.

rodcobra
07-31-2007, 01:14 PM
Just saving time ,because I'm hate READING all of the things we did wrong .:confused:

mbpd652
07-31-2007, 01:15 PM
Just saving time ,because I'm hate READING all of the things we did wrong .:confused:

Thats cool, just thought was kinda funny cause i read it twice.....i deleted it.sorry.:D

Dunn
07-31-2007, 01:28 PM
For the whole problem with people being fools on the road infront of the mall, I can understand where everyone is coming from in the sense that the people who cut up too much infront of the mall, really does ruining some of the experience of the event, BUT

I (along with many others I saw at the show) couldn't help but watch it when someone, who wanted to get on it a little bit (i.e. blip the throttle leaving the show) its just the nature that people want to hear those muscle cars in their intended nature.

Now the guy who did the 500ft burn out (in a camaro, none the less) was out of line. It seemed that the sheriffs I saw pass by, didnt stop anyone from goosing it a bit, as long as it was in line with being somewhat safe.

If it wasn't for the anticipation of those leaving, I would have left the car show after an hour or so, and not visited back around to see the cars, mall and other activites surrounding.

Im with everyone when someone does something excessive, its not smart and ruinings the rest of the event though. Other then that, its a fantastic event put on by hard working people. I can't wait for next year!:D

GeoSnake
07-31-2007, 01:34 PM
By break out classes do you mean parking model years together? That seems like a great idea to me, but I also realize the trouble it would cause. Maybe number the spaces and assign the cars accordingly. Make the registration deadline Thursday night before the trip to Darlington so there is time to assign parking spots.
How can we do that when we have to be at Darlington dealing with the track owners, participants, and vendors/sponsor? I drove straight to the mall Thursday, after dragnight, and didn't leave until 3:40am helping park sponsors and vendors, since they officially couldn't take the space until that night at midnight. The things folks see as simple solutions are NOT that simple.

25thmustang
07-31-2007, 01:34 PM
ALthough immature the leaving and people making noise and showing off to me is one of the highlights of the events. The first year we saw it we were in shock, as this does not happen up north. The cops here will not allow it and will park 4 cruisers in a line to get every car that does anything other than slowely pull out. If the cops don't want to come out and prevent it from happening until something goes wrong, then so be it. I can say I will always be out on the lawn waiting for someone to make some noise... I will pleade the 5th as to whether I drove down that strip or not in my car!

The other suggestions look good, and some look like things can be easily handeled. I have NO idea where the other mall is and HOPE it doesnt move there. This year was better than last and I am sure next will be even better than that!

GeoSnake
07-31-2007, 01:40 PM
Im sure but im telling you to make contact with the BRASS. By this i mean SCHP and Horry Countys chief to ensure you have keep checks of the area. I know sometimes things dont get jumped on very quickly but if you phrase things differently you get a response from different agency's in area. At MB we call events like this keep checks and log them in our cad system to pop up every hour to send officers out and check locations. Let me know next year and il get you contact with the right peeps.......lol

http://www.horrycounty.org/hcgPortal.asp
heres county site were you vcan e-mail chief to ask for help.


In my 2nd call to Horry County Sherriff's Dept, I finally resorted to telling them I was going to go to the local press (TV, radio, and newspaper) about their lack of understanding and unwillingness to send someone out. Only then did they send the units towards the mall. Their presence was appreciated but it took 2 calls to SCHP (no response, "too busy") and 2 calls to Horry County. We have a name and number of who we "should" be calling next year to make sure police presence is there.

We want everyone to understand that it is not that we don't enjoy seeing folks cutting up in their car. The problem comes when you pull out onto a very busy highway and endanger the traveling public. Not smart nor cool.

GeoSnake
07-31-2007, 01:46 PM
I took a good long look at Inlet Square Mall's parking lots Sunday night after everything was over. It wouldn't work at the rate Mustang Week is growing.

As for food vendors... the mall would have to provide that since a food vendor would be direct competition to those in the food court, etc.

Keep the suggestions coming. I promise we will cover them all during our next meeting while it's fresh on our minds.

bit
07-31-2007, 01:54 PM
How can we do that when we have to be at Darlington dealing with the track owners, participants, and vendors/sponsor? I drove straight to the mall Thursday, after dragnight, and didn't leave until 3:40am helping park sponsors and vendors, since they officially couldn't take the space until that night at midnight. The things folks see as simple solutions are NOT that simple.
It seems the MW Staff, yourself included, have taken offense to almost everything that has been said. I understand there is a lot of hard work that goes into the event and it can be very stressful. I have put on enough small car events to know this first hand. BUT taking criticism and at least considering it will make the event grow. If before the drag night does not work then find what works best, consider more staff, or send me an email and I will help next year the best I can. The point is everyone that has made suggestions is trying to help, but ultimately it is up to you to decide the events. And from the outside looking in so far everything has gone great.

MOB-ONE
07-31-2007, 01:57 PM
With Chik-Fil-A already in the mall would they possibly be allowed to? The same property owns the one in Myrtle as the one in Burlington and they allowed Chik-fil-a to set up a tent at ours. (chik-fil-a is at our mall also) Just a thought on that-

CWD
07-31-2007, 01:59 PM
Start on Monday, have a "break day" where there is no events scheduled and allow time to vacation and not stress out! I know too many that went with out sleep and rest for way too long. Folks this can contribute to burn out and possibly an accident as dangerous as showing off on #17. I certainly want the Staff to know that I appreciate their hard work and dedication...how many others would volunteer so much time all year to one week? Rodney for those don't see it there are many times more of us who do appreciate what you have done and believe me you have done TONS more right than wrong, so be encouraged.. Thanks Charles

MOB-ONE
07-31-2007, 02:07 PM
You know, a mid-week break might allow for the bigger clubs like the Black Mustang Club, Bad Mustang Club, and Yellow Mustang Registry (and others)to hold an event of their own of sorts. That would possibly allow the Mustang Week staff to "fill" the week with events, but have a break in the middle to rest a little. Interesting suggestion, I could see many benefits to participants and clubs all the way around...I'm adding it right now to the list.

4fit?
07-31-2007, 02:14 PM
I also like the idea of a mid-week break. Makes perfect sense to me. Would allow for a day to hang with friends and family, work on teh car for the show, whatever one my choose to do. Very good suggestion.

T76Coupe
07-31-2007, 03:15 PM
Would it be possible to have a photographer to follow around the Judges next year and take a picture of everyone of the cars in the show. Then after the event you could post up the winner of the awards on the site so everyone could check them out. I remember listening to the winners, but not having a clue which car it was for. And you could possibly take it one step further and offer the pictures as prints that the car show participants could purchase with maybe a MW week logo embedded on it.

Victor
07-31-2007, 03:15 PM
Would it be possible to have a photographer to follow around the Judges next year and take a picture of everyone of the cars in the show. Then after the event you could post up the winner of the awards on the site so everyone could check them out. I remember listening to the winners, but not having a clue which car it was for. And you could possibly take it one step further and offer the pictures as prints that the car show participants could purchase with maybe a MW week logo embedded on it.

If this idea makes it, I'd be willing to do this for free.

MOB-ONE
07-31-2007, 03:17 PM
T76- I'll list this suggestion on the first page. (I'll short hand it a little)

Update on first page in the next few minutes.

yellow01gt
07-31-2007, 03:19 PM
Would it be possible to have a photographer to follow around the Judges next year and take a picture of everyone of the cars in the show. Then after the event you could post up the winner of the awards on the site so everyone could check them out. I remember listening to the winners, but not having a clue which car it was for. And you could possibly take it one step further and offer the pictures as prints that the car show participants could purchase with maybe a MW week logo embedded on it.

That's a great idea! It would be a cool little memento to purchase too! I know we would buy one!!

BlueSnake1013
07-31-2007, 03:20 PM
The idea of a mid week break is nice!! I definately like that one. For those who come for then entire week that would be a godsend!

And whoever suggested parking the cars by years/body styles.. I like that idea. It makes it a lot easier to keep up with taking photos of the cars and such.

maybe have a daily driven class and a trailor class also? I saw a LOT of cars that were super nice that were drove every day and some that appeared to never have been out of a trailor. Its hard to compete against something like that if you drive yours every day like I do. Although I didnt get to enter the show this year. Just an idea.

mbpd652
07-31-2007, 03:24 PM
id say also keep show cars from display so the Judging staff wont have a hard time tracking cars down also..........and have set time for each to show up on car show day.

MOB-ONE
07-31-2007, 03:24 PM
I'll modify the class break out suggestion and add in the trailored/daily driver class part.:)

Updated- all suggestions to this point are on the list...if I missed any please bring them to my attention.

1. Trash cans in the lot with us
2. Porta- Jons
3. Dash Plaques
4. Break out classes and include a Daily Driver and Trailor Class.
5. No vendor or staff cars in show field
6. "weight" higher mileage cars in the show
7. Food Vendor out in the lot with us
8. Compensation for Mustang Week Staff
9. Allow extra time in schedule for calculating results. Scheduled time was 6:00P.M. and actual time of presentation was closer to 7:30 P.M.
10. Rule that no spray paint allowed in show or display areas
11. Separate Vendor class
12. Possible Location change to Inlet Square Mall
13. Go ahead and back the time up to regular show hours instead of delaying the start time.
14. Possibly a mid-week break to allow for rest OR other club events.
15. Possible photography of cars that could be listed as winners and also for participants to buy with Mustang Week LOGO on it.
16. Separate the cars showing from the car displaying

I see what you are saying about separating the cars. But the format they had this year allowed friends that were in a group together that might have had different body styles or were divided with some showing and some not to park together. I see both sides of this, I think the Mustang Week staff did it this way this year so that they could keep any groups of friends together.

sivlersnake
07-31-2007, 04:22 PM
id say also keep show cars from display so the Judging staff wont have a hard time tracking cars down also..........and have set time for each to show up on car show day.

LOL, there was a time for people to show up.
Didn't work. :p

4fit?
07-31-2007, 04:24 PM
LOL, there was a time for people to show up.
Didn't work. :p
Ain't that the truth! Not only did people show up WAY early, but they got all pissed when they were told they couldn't enter the show area yet.:rolleyes:

yellow01gt
07-31-2007, 04:28 PM
I see what you are saying about separating the cars. But the format they had this year allowed friends that were in a group together that might have had different body styles or were divided with some showing and some not to park together. I see both sides of this, I think the Mustang Week staff did it this way this year so that they could keep any groups of friends together.

just a thought...... but what better way to make new friends then by breaking up the clubs for the showing process. They can park together as a club at the cruise in. just a thought not trying to step on any toes. ;)

MOB-ONE
07-31-2007, 04:46 PM
Yeah, I can see your point, but boy do people get upset when you go breaking up their group.lol

bonesgt
07-31-2007, 06:16 PM
Yeah, I can see your point, but boy do people get upset when you go breaking up their group.lol

I'm plus one on parking the cars on SHOW DAY by years or generations. the Clubs have their day on Saturday to park together "as a club". I think this would be a godsend for the judges also!!!!

I also like the idea of a "break day" so the Clubs could do a meet, dinner, putt-putt, whatever they want to. Only seems right, cause I know from past events how hard it is to set something up between MW events.

I know i've gotten the insdie track on a lot of what Rodney. Mike, Bill, Scott, the MOB, and others put into and spend out for this event every year. If some of ya'll knew what it all cost..you would say DAMN!!!!!!!!, There are doing an AWSOME JOB with Mustangweek, and look where it has come from from in ONLY 5 YEARS........ from maybe 100 stangs meeting up at Hard Rock Cafe on a friday & saturday night; to a week full of fun, wild and crazy stang stuff!!!! My hat is off to all of the gang for this wonderful event. Yes there are a few things that "could be" better; but this is an every growing expanding event, and it can only get bigger and better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This was my first year ever with a stang there, and I still had a great time!!! Plans are already in the works for next years Mustangweek, and another Foxbody Cruise..as long as it's cool with the staff..hehehe

badass1993
07-31-2007, 06:21 PM
Regarding the vendors cars in the show...if vendors want to show their cars you could always make a seperate vendor car class so they are not competing against the regular show cars. They could be judged vs the other sponsors cars. Personally I dont think the vendors cars should be in the regular show field...although I did see many that were...None of the BMCP cars that were in the booth were entered in the show for just that reason, our cars were display only.

I must say I cant necessarly agree with that....It has always been told that if you set up to display with your vendor,that you cannot be in the car show......However I brung my car to be in the show,and even though I was parked with my clubs area,I was not in their display spot...However,I am part vendor/sponsor...I am sorry,but I just cant see how my $30 was any diffrent than anybody elses?

CWD
07-31-2007, 06:36 PM
Put the break day between dragnight and speedway events would make a lot of sense. Giving the Staff a break and not having to run from one event to another. Allowing clubs to perhaps plan their own activities. A day mid weekers could travel in and not be pushed to make an event or drive crazy hours. Or like some one mentioned a full day with the family with out having to give up or pass on an event. We wanted to pick a night to go to Mideval Times but were just too tiered or didn't feel comfortable making the advance plans. Just some thoughts.. It seems to be catching on..

sivlersnake
07-31-2007, 06:39 PM
I would like to see the break between the track events and the show. I heard a few people say how tough it was to get back from the track and have the car ready for the show the next morning. This would give a "clean up" day and time to do something with family or club.

4fit?
07-31-2007, 06:45 PM
I would like to see the break between the track events and the show. I heard a few people say how tough it was to get back from the track and have the car ready for the show the next morning. This would give a "clean up" day and time to do something with family or club.
I second that. IMO, that would be the perfect day for the break.

SM69Mach
07-31-2007, 06:46 PM
Put the break day between dragnight and speedway events would make a lot of sense. Giving the Staff a break and not having to run from one event to another. Allowing clubs to perhaps plan their own activities. A day mid weekers could travel in and not be pushed to make an event or drive crazy hours. Or like some one mentioned a full day with the family with out having to give up or pass on an event. We wanted to pick a night to go to Mideval Times but were just too tiered or didn't feel comfortable making the advance plans. Just some thoughts.. It seems to be catching on..

This is a great idea and we will certainly be discussing this as we plan for next year. We learn more and more about every event we do each year. Our main intent as said many times before today, is to get Mustangs and owners together for a great week of events and have fun doing it. While we are not perfect by any means, we are 5 guys (plus the MOB group) that puts our time and even own money into this event throughout the year to make this the best event on the east coast.

We are always open to suggestions and criticism by attendees, that is the only way we will grow is by changing with that growth. No where can you find a place where you can run at a circle track, autocross, cruise in, drag strip and car show in a matter of a few days with in a location. We want to thank every one that came and everyone posting here about how we can make this better. This is why we do this is to get as many people out at the beach to have the best time with your friends, family, and cars.

Thanks
Scott

waterjetguy
07-31-2007, 07:05 PM
try and get a spectator mustang parking spot close to the show .

DID ANYONE C ALL THE STANGS IN THAT LOT IN FRONT OF THE MALL?

must have been atleast 100 stangs in the lot . would b nice to have some spectator (mustang only parking ) maby like charge a few bucks and c what happens .

sivlersnake
07-31-2007, 07:15 PM
try and get a spectator mustang parking spot close to the show .

DID ANYONE C ALL THE STANGS IN THAT LOT IN FRONT OF THE MALL?

must have been atleast 100 stangs in the lot . would b nice to have some spectator (mustang only parking ) maby like charge a few bucks and c what happens .

:confused: How is charging a few bucks for spectator parking and being in the show as display only any different?

kyles2000z
07-31-2007, 07:35 PM
I'm plus one on parking the cars on SHOW DAY by years or generations. the Clubs have their day on Saturday to park together "as a club". I think this would be a godsend for the judges also!!!!

I also like the idea of a "break day" so the Clubs could do a meet, dinner, putt-putt, whatever they want to. Only seems right, cause I know from past events how hard it is to set something up between MW events.

I know i've gotten the insdie track on a lot of what Rodney. Mike, Bill, Scott, the MOB, and others put into and spend out for this event every year. If some of ya'll knew what it all cost..you would say DAMN!!!!!!!!, There are doing an AWSOME JOB with Mustangweek, and look where it has come from from in ONLY 5 YEARS........ from maybe 100 stangs meeting up at Hard Rock Cafe on a friday & saturday night; to a week full of fun, wild and crazy stang stuff!!!! My hat is off to all of the gang for this wonderful event. Yes there are a few things that "could be" better; but this is an every growing expanding event, and it can only get bigger and better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This was my first year ever with a stang there, and I still had a great time!!! Plans are already in the works for next years Mustangweek, and another Foxbody Cruise..as long as it's cool with the staff..hehehe


well said. i dont own a stang, nor will i ever bc im diehard chevy, but im always at the beach during this week and love comming to the show. i would give anything for the previous week (f-body week) to be half as good as the event you stang guys put on. be thankful you all have a real nice week full of stuff and a GREAT turnout, f-body week only had 60 cars registered at our show on the 21st and it was our second year doing it. i just wish our event was big enough to even GIVE the judges a headache. be grateful folks!

badass1993
07-31-2007, 08:34 PM
Put the break day between dragnight and speedway events would make a lot of sense. Giving the Staff a break and not having to run from one event to another. Allowing clubs to perhaps plan their own activities. A day mid weekers could travel in and not be pushed to make an event or drive crazy hours. Or like some one mentioned a full day with the family with out having to give up or pass on an event. We wanted to pick a night to go to Mideval Times but were just too tiered or didn't feel comfortable making the advance plans. Just some thoughts.. It seems to be catching on..

Amen I was wooped Friday.....

badass1993
07-31-2007, 08:39 PM
How about some incentative behind drag night? It had been mentioned before....Maybe If a sponsor would throw up some $$$ and have a bracket race or two....Might could pull a few more peeps out....Even though we had quite a few there!!!! I know several people that would help out...Maybe even Kenny Holcomb..he was there this year!

SM69Mach
07-31-2007, 08:51 PM
How about some incentative behind drag night? It had been mentioned before....Maybe If a sponsor would throw up some $$$ and have a bracket race or two....Might could pull a few more peeps out....Even though we had quite a few there!!!! I know several people that would help out...Maybe even Kenny Holcomb..he was there this year!

We talked to the track guys about that as well and we are working on that too. :D

Bullitt1171
07-31-2007, 08:54 PM
maybe have a daily driven class and a trailor class also? I saw a LOT of cars that were super nice that were drove every day and some that appeared to never have been out of a trailor. Its hard to compete against something like that if you drive yours every day like I do. Although I didnt get to enter the show this year. Just an idea.

I agree with this one completely. It is hard for daily driven/older cars to compete with ones that have been trailered and garaged for their entire life. My Bullitt is in good shape for it's age and mileage, but can't compete with a 05-07 Mustang that has been babied for the life of the vehicle. That's is just the nature of owning a vehicle. I felt that this was apparent in the amount of Top 75 awards that went to 05-07 Mustangs (I know that there were more 05-07s in the show). Having different classes though, would encourage those with older vehicles to get involved. This is the area that I feel needs the biggest change.

I know that it was mentioned on here before MW that the car show was for fun and to not worry about it, BUT participants are paying $30 and putting a lot of time into cleaning their vehicles. The amount of trailered cars also shows that the car show is not just "fun", but a serious competition. Alright....enough with my ranting.

Redfireshaker06
07-31-2007, 09:03 PM
Ok, why does everyone keep bringing up the 05-07's? My 2006 is a DD Florida car which I drove the 600 miles there and the 600 miles back. Just because we have a newer vehicle, I don't see why everyone is hatin.

Bullitt1171
07-31-2007, 09:05 PM
Ok, why does everyone keep bringing up the 05-07's? My 2006 is a DD Florida car which I drove the 600 miles there and the 600 miles back. Just because we have a newer vehicle, I don't see why everyone is hatin.

I don't hate 05-07 Mustangs. I'm just saying that a 05-07 daily driven is going to be cleaner (less rock chips, etc.) than a daily driven 01 Bullitt. Therefore it will have the advantage in a car show which bases judging on cleanliness.

russell333
07-31-2007, 09:40 PM
How do you suggest judging the cars. The most rock chips wins or what?

Bullitt1171
07-31-2007, 09:42 PM
How do you suggest judging the cars. The most rock chips wins or what?

No, I suggest breaking the car show up into different classes, which would balance things out....I made that pretty clear above. I'm not the only person that feels this way.

Redfireshaker06
07-31-2007, 09:43 PM
I was even told, rockchips were only like 1 point off. I got more chips in the front and windshield in 1 trip up there, then I had on the car owning it for 11 months before hand

gregbe1
07-31-2007, 10:00 PM
Just saving time ,because I'm hate READING all of the things we did wrong .:confused:

don't let the nay sayers get you down. ya done good !!!

It shows that you guys want to make this even better by just having a thread like this, some of the suggested changes are pretty good so far.

keep em coming

MOB-ONE
07-31-2007, 10:02 PM
Some dern good suggestions are coming out of this I think.

gregbe1
07-31-2007, 10:11 PM
You know, a mid-week break might allow for the bigger clubs like the Black Mustang Club, Bad Mustang Club, and Yellow Mustang Registry (and others)to hold an event of their own of sorts. That would possibly allow the Mustang Week staff to "fill" the week with events, but have a break in the middle to rest a little. Interesting suggestion, I could see many benefits to participants and clubs all the way around...I'm adding it right now to the list.

might be good and might be bad idea, since i would bet 1/2 or more don't get to arrive until mid week Wed/Thur

Bullitt1171
07-31-2007, 10:16 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the ricers at the track event. They got pretty reckless on the autocross.

bit
07-31-2007, 10:25 PM
might be good and might be bad idea, since i would bet 1/2 or more don't get to arrive until mid week Wed/Thur
I was thinking the same thing, I usually come on Wednesday. BUT I need one night to take the girl out for "non car stuff". I usually use the drag night.

BestOfOld&New
08-01-2007, 12:07 AM
I like the idea of a swap meet. I seen the PA and Ford Racing tent/trailers, but I loved the guys selling the used and new stuff off to the side near the dyno. I stayed out their haggling and swaping parts more than I looked at the cars(Had alot on Friday). I'm into the 69-70 and the 87-93 and see a huge following of parts new and used at other swap meets( ie Auto Fair) But charge $50 - $100 even more depending on size for a spot and get a spot to swap and trade. Maybe even have it at the strip off in a parking lot.

cat
08-01-2007, 09:05 AM
Overall, I think the show went smoothly and lots of fun was had by many!! Here are a few of my suggestions:

I would suggest the DJ be away from the registration tent so you don't have to yell to get checked in.

Allow everyone to come in at the same time or no one. It gets pretty confusing when some people are allowed to come on in and start cleaning on their cars and others aren't, whether they are club affiliated or not.

Start allowing people in at 8am, cut registration off at 12pm and judge 12:30 - 2:30? The main point I am trying to make is to start sooner, not have as much time in the heat of the day, and to finish sooner and possibly avoid everyone standing around in the rain.

Let MW staff or volunteers "park" ALL cars based on whatever system is decided. Some early birds parked whereever they wanted to and blocked off one end of a row and you couldn't send cars down that way to parking locations.

Judge cars by classes, not by rows. That way you have more consistency in the judging of similar vehicles.

I think that is all I can think of right now. :D

k9dane
08-01-2007, 11:56 PM
Judge cars by classes, not by rows. That way you have more consistency in the judging of similar vehicles.



Agreed. I thought it was a bit odd to watch Machs, GT's, Bullitt's, etc. get judged together.

Rev's 5.0
08-02-2007, 12:04 AM
Amen on the DJ. How bout allowing a Non-profit group set up a concession stand if mall allows. I like the idea of a break esp. for the MW staff. And yes you guys should be PAID. My family and I had a Blast thanks soooo much for all the hard work.

waterjetguy
08-02-2007, 05:12 PM
MY IDEA ?

GET RID OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEED A SHRINK AFTER THEY DONT WIN OR ANY "GROUPS" WHO CANT GET ALONG WITH PEOPLE . i am so taken back by all the whining and crying by adults . ITS A SHOW TO MEET PEOPLE AND HAVE A GOOD TIME .

i think you guys do an ultra FANTASTIC job at this thing . u all deserv a round of applause . if u r ever in joisey ill buy ya a few beers . HELL I BAUGHT 6 T SHIRTS AND I WISH I BAUGHT MORE every free poster i go i had laminated and made into poster boards to hang in my office cost me 260 bucks to do it but i even have the mustang week poster done to put in my garage

THANKS FOR AN AWSOME TIME
ill b back next year forshure .

UGOTTBIT
08-02-2007, 05:22 PM
MY IDEA ?

GET RID OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEED A SHRINK AFTER THEY DONT WIN OR ANY "GROUPS" WHO CANT GET ALONG WITH PEOPLE . i am so taken back by all the whining and crying by adults . ITS A SHOW TO MEET PEOPLE AND HAVE A GOOD TIME .

THANKS FOR AN AWSOME TIME
ill b back next year forshure .


+1 Very Well Said!

Rusty:cool:

Cobrahandler
08-02-2007, 10:42 PM
I don't know if the Mustang Week Staff is getting paid for what they do. If not then I feel they should be compensated for their time and effort making this happen. T-shirts and posters just don't cut it. Its such a growing event that people are eventually going to need to be paid because its going to become a job if it isn't already. How about we talk about this? Maybe charge a $5 - $10 entry fee for everyone including spectators. We only see the end result of their work, we don't see the time and frustration it takes to pull this off. Lets talk about fund raising to keep the Staff interested in keeping this going.

MustangWeek was started and will always be a way to have fun with our Mustangs and our families at the beach. It's expensive enough to just be at Myrtle Beach thus we strive to keep our events free or as cheap as possible when we have that control.

We do not do this for compensation. My reward is seeing people having fun and making new friends.

Cobrahandler
08-02-2007, 10:46 PM
that's exactly what I was talking about in the judging thread. ;)

This show is not an MCA show and we started this as a way to avoid all the trappings and formality and details of those events. It's simply a fun show.

The MCA Grand National is Labor Day weekend in South Georgia if you are interested in that kind of activity.

Cobrahandler
08-02-2007, 10:53 PM
Im sure but im telling you to make contact with the BRASS. By this i mean SCHP and Horry Countys chief to ensure you have keep checks of the area. I know sometimes things dont get jumped on very quickly but if you phrase things differently you get a response from different agency's in area. At MB we call events like this keep checks and log them in our cad system to pop up every hour to send officers out and check locations. Let me know next year and il get you contact with the right peeps.......lol

http://www.horrycounty.org/hcgPortal.asp
heres county site were you vcan e-mail chief to ask for help.

We went straight to the brass, as you call it.

UGOTTBIT
08-03-2007, 12:00 AM
We do not do this for compensation. My reward is seeing people having fun and making new friends.


+1 Well said I feel the same way!

Rusty:cool:

BlueSnake1013
08-03-2007, 03:41 AM
MY IDEA ?

GET RID OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEED A SHRINK AFTER THEY DONT WIN OR ANY "GROUPS" WHO CANT GET ALONG WITH PEOPLE . i am so taken back by all the whining and crying by adults . ITS A SHOW TO MEET PEOPLE AND HAVE A GOOD TIME .

i think you guys do an ultra FANTASTIC job at this thing . u all deserv a round of applause . if u r ever in joisey ill buy ya a few beers . HELL I BAUGHT 6 T SHIRTS AND I WISH I BAUGHT MORE every free poster i go i had laminated and made into poster boards to hang in my office cost me 260 bucks to do it but i even have the mustang week poster done to put in my garage

THANKS FOR AN AWSOME TIME
ill b back next year forshure .


LMAO!!!!!!!! I LOVE THAT!!
And It is SO SO SOOO true! For crying out loud i didnt even get to show my car off ANY! Did ya hear me crying about it!? NOPE! Busy emjoying the other cars. Wasnt a biggie yes i missed my car but oh well. Enjoy the event dont worry about winning a damn trophy or how clean your car is ect. Its all for fun! :)

rcknpony
08-03-2007, 07:05 AM
Why do I feel that we are one posting away from a Jerry Springer episode?:

sivlersnake
08-03-2007, 07:37 AM
LMAO!

ipchay61
08-03-2007, 08:08 AM
MY IDEA ?

GET RID OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEED A SHRINK AFTER THEY DONT WIN OR ANY "GROUPS" WHO CANT GET ALONG WITH PEOPLE . i am so taken back by all the whining and crying by adults . ITS A SHOW TO MEET PEOPLE AND HAVE A GOOD TIME .

I think the only whining that should be allowed is the whine coming from the blowers on the super-charged cars!

Low 11s
08-03-2007, 08:13 AM
I have a great solution to everyone's judging gripe. How about the MSW staff pool their own personal funds together and fly in Carrol Shelby himself, along with Steve Saleen and Emerson Fittipaldi. This way when you receive your $8 dash plaque you can rest assured you were judged by the most accurate, non biased, professionals in the business. Furthermore, the winners at MSW should be flown Carte Blanche (totally funded by the MSW staff and immediate family members) to Pebble Beach, Florida to compete in the Concours.

Its funny how the people who complain have the least amount of post. Its almost like you only registered with this forum so you could complain.

Rev's 5.0
08-03-2007, 08:44 AM
The complainers kinda remind me of some of my church members. Always quick to complain but slow to help. I got a saying I use at the church "It ain't about you." Think if fits here. I thought this whole week was just about having fun and seeing alot of cool cars.

waterjetguy
08-03-2007, 08:56 AM
I have a great solution to everyone's judging gripe. How about the MSW staff pool their own personal funds together and fly in Carrol Shelby himself, along with Steve Saleen and Emerson Fittipaldi. This way when you receive your $8 dash plaque you can rest assured you were judged by the most accurate, non biased, professionals in the business. Furthermore, the winners at MSW should be flown Carte Blanche (totally funded by the MSW staff and immediate family members) to Pebble Beach, Florida to compete in the Concours.

Its funny how the people who complain have the least amount of post. Its almost like you only registered with this forum so you could complain.

i agree my friend ( wait i dont have alot of posts ) but im not complaining . im trying to defend m/w staff
I THINK U GUYS ROCK .

GeoSnake
08-03-2007, 09:09 AM
Ok folks, here's the deal. We are meeting this weekend to go over some things while they are fresh on our minds. We will go through each point posted about the show at our meeting.... so have all points listed by tonight. Trust me, all suggestions will be taken into consideration and a decision about each suggestion will be made. We never set out for the car show to be the "central" event during Mustang Week. Somehow it seems to be the focus of everyones attention this year. There is room for improvement, but we have to weigh the monetary and mental costs of all changes. We will discuss the show periodically throughout the year as we approach the 2008 event. Allow us some patience and we will work to make things better for all of us. But, please don't be offended or angered if one of your personal suggestions is not implemented. We will do the best we can.

badass1993
08-03-2007, 09:19 AM
Ok folks, here's the deal. We are meeting this weekend to go over some things while they are fresh on our minds. We will go through each point posted about the show at our meeting.... so have all points listed by tonight. Trust me, all suggestions will be taken into consideration and a decision about each suggestion will be made. We never set out for the car show to be the "central" event during Mustang Week. Somehow it seems to be the focus of everyones attention this year. There is room for improvement, but we have to weigh the monetary and mental costs of all changes. We will discuss the show periodically throughout the year as we approach the 2008 event. Allow us some patience and we will work to make things better for all of us. But, please don't be offended or angered if one of your personal suggestions is not implemented. We will do the best we can.

You guys have never ever let us down before,you have my complete faith,that whatever changes are made,if any will be the best ones for the future of MW

yellow01gt
08-03-2007, 10:37 AM
You guys have never ever let us down before,you have my complete faith,that whatever changes are made,if any will be the best ones for the future of MW

well said, I agree with you and trust that they will do what's best for the future of MW.

CWD
08-03-2007, 10:52 AM
Think about it...At least the forums are NOT about; Why did no one show? or How can we get people to participate?, Where was everyone, we had only 70 cars?, Why has MW not caught on? A lot of money and time was wasted for nothing, Nobody cares at all!, on and on. Perspective is the MW is a huge success and continues to grow. I'm thankful for that. Have a great meeting and know you have been very successful!! IMO.

lambostang
08-03-2007, 10:53 AM
just wondering. how many people are on the staff and would u ever concider ading more people to it?

4fit?
08-03-2007, 11:13 AM
just wondering. how many people are on the staff and would u ever concider ading more people to it?
If I remember correctly, the staff consists of 5 folks: Bill, Rodney, Mike, Scott, and Brad. Then you have the volunteers like us from the MOB that help out wherever needed.

GeoSnake
08-03-2007, 12:00 PM
just wondering. how many people are on the staff and would u ever concider ading more people to it?

The 5 of us have know each other long enough to be able to anticipate each other's thoughts and ideas. We needed help with the car show, and the MOB stepped up to the plate. Without their help, the show wouldn't be possible. We do reallize that with the continued growth of Mustang Week, the five of us may not be able to handle everything on our own. But until that time comes, I imagine it will continue to be the 5 of us. From time-to-time we lean on outside help for various things, but for the most part we can handle the planning throughout the year. Again, with time and growth that may change.

The thing we have learned is that there are a TON of folks that are willing to help out. Some of the folks that are willing to help out are very well "connected" in the Mustang community. That helps when you "it's who you know" that helps us get the job done, so to speak. One thing we always need people to do is help spread the word about Mustang Week. Right now, that is the single most important thing we can ask of participants.

Now I'm ready to begin working toward MW '08!

mycobra777
08-03-2007, 01:02 PM
I suggest registration from 9-12 and then close it. That is what pre-registration was for. Judging promptly at 1:00 or 2:00.

That would make for a shorter day and more time for looking at cars after the awards.

sivlersnake
08-03-2007, 01:07 PM
I'm ready for Mustang Week '08 to be here. I think I've been ready sense Sunday afternoon.

lambostang
08-04-2007, 02:01 AM
I suggest registration from 9-12 and then close it. That is what pre-registration was for. Judging promptly at 1:00 or 2:00.

That would make for a shorter day and more time for looking at cars after the awards.

Thats really early for the people who come back from drag night the night before.

BlueSnake1013
08-04-2007, 02:15 AM
Thats really early for the people who come back from drag night the night before.

yup.. but thats exactly why we didnt go to the drag night. That and the fact it was just too far away and not worth $60 in gas!

I personally like the idea of the later car show. Gives you more time to clean on your car and gets you out of the heat a little bit more. I say you guys need to keep that time on the show!

Also... is there any way to find somewhere large enough to host the car show/cruise in but with more shaded areas?? I think that was the harshest part no shade on black pavment!

GeoSnake
08-04-2007, 01:19 PM
yup.. but thats exactly why we didnt go to the drag night. That and the fact it was just too far away and not worth $60 in gas!

I personally like the idea of the later car show. Gives you more time to clean on your car and gets you out of the heat a little bit more. I say you guys need to keep that time on the show!

Also... is there any way to find somewhere large enough to host the car show/cruise in but with more shaded areas?? I think that was the harshest part no shade on black pavment!


We have outgrown most all venues large enough for the show and keep it near US 17. We are constantly exploring the options though.

GeoSnake
08-04-2007, 01:24 PM
Darlington this year netted around 120 cars running and over 600 people in the gate = folks do like dragnight!!!

Redfireshaker06
08-04-2007, 01:36 PM
i would have went if the show wasn't the next morning. Thats the only reason I didn't

lambostang
08-04-2007, 06:46 PM
Darlington this year netted around 120 cars running and over 600 people in the gate = folks do like dragnight!!!

yea no doubt so to make the car show any earlier would just be crazy.

GeoSnake
08-04-2007, 07:12 PM
I used to go to dragnight, drive back to Myrtle Beach and start cleaning the car late that night. Staying at the Holiday Sands South made that easy since they supply a car wash area. Then the morning of the show it was just detail work so the car didn't look like crap displayed w/ the other Staff cars.

On another note, later tonight or tomorrow morning, I'm going to post some notes from the Staff meeting today concerning the car show and week in general. We spent the whole afternoon discussing this year's events. Look for my next post to address some of the listed issues.